we had a sense of peace about us, both of us. because we know where his soul was. we know that we'll see him again. we have that hope. but when they said he was passed, instinctively told myself, this is wrong, wrong, wrong. you cannot walk into a convenience store in this country as a teenager or young adult or an adult, purchase a product, obviously to get high and then your lungs shut down and you suffocate. it is wrong in the purest form. it's very frustrating as a parent to know that this is being sold throughout the country. it's not only sold in convenience stores, adult novelty shops and other avenues to sell the product. >> part of the problem is, there's this loophole where it's sold legally. so knowing that, until you can get to the point where it's not sold, what can you tell parents to be -- part of it is awareness, i'm sure. what do they need to talk to their kids about, so they understand the risks. you said chase didn't? >> well, it's talking to your children, your grandchildren. talking to them saying, have you heard before this stuff, do you under